Corvette ZR1 laps the 'Ring in 7:26.4

[Lowerd1]

GM says it could go faster in some places still.

It's official.
http://blog.gmnext.com/?p=194

Also in autoblog
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/27/gauntlet-thrown-corvette-zr1-laps-the-ring-in-7-26-4/


Tadge J. Juechter, Corvette's chief engineer, announced this morning that Jim Mero, GM's development engineer, drove the ZR1 around the Nurburgring in 7:26.4. According to the GMNext blog, the run took place earlier this morning and that conditions were good on the track, with the exception of a strong headwind down the main straight. Mero mentioned that he felt there were a few places where he could have gone faster, although no details were provided about why and where.

Juechter makes it clear that the ZR1 that lapped the 'Ring was instock trim, with the exception of safety and communications equipment. As such, the ZR1 was wearing the same Michelin Pilot Sport 2s found on the production model, the chassis alignment and vehicle height were set to factory specs and the unmodified engine was running on pump gas.

The lap began with a rolling start – which falls in line with current industry practices – and the time was confirmed both through an electronic timing system and two hand-held stopwatches. The ZR1 team will be posting a video of their run when they return from Germany and we'll be keeping our eye out for it when it's online the week of July 7th.

Top tip Mason!

[venom_5]

still didnt beat the LF-A concept/pre-production/whatever u wanna call it ... so im happy :) but ill be watching to see if they try to push it, i know they want to beat the GT-R and theyre what? 1.5 secs off the pace ...

whats awesome is that it was driven by an Engineer, not some hired F1 driver or whatever ... almost gives me a sense that it wont take Mr. Universe to drive the car at its limits

[Lowerd1]

They beat the GT-R by a few seconds. That is 1.4 secs off the Preproduction V-Spec GT-R that weights over 300lbs less and makes 70HP more than the GT-R.



This is completely stock even the tires, its the car you can buy right now. The only thing that was added was safety gear which adds weight to the car and slows it down. Without the wind, the safety gear and on their best lap I could definatly see them posting a 7:20 time.

[venom_5]

oh word - didnt even realize the 7:25 was the Spec-V, not sure how that slipped my mind ... but that just makes the ZR1 even more awesome

[TomS]

And Slovette says in 3...2....1.....






Told ya so!!! :)



I need one of these AND a GTR.

[Lowerd1]

They should put Jackie Stewart in the car. He claims he can drop anybodys time by 20secs and even did that to James May on a track. I wander how much he could drop off the ZR1 on a track like the Ring.:lol:

[JAMESZ]

Where did Chris V. go? :lol:

They finally did a rolling start on the ring this time, and think it can go faster. I'm impressed with the car as I figured it wouldn't be much faster than a Z06 on the track with the extra power.

However, I wish this Ring performance evaluation crap would stop. Since the GT-R, it seems to have become THE means of testing a cars performance, and it's absolute crap; because conditions are never the same, and there is no standard set-up for any of these cars. There I said it... :eek:

[venom_5]

However, I wish this Ring performance evaluation crap would stop. Since the GT-R, it seems to have become THE means of testing a cars performance, and it's absolute crap; because conditions are never the same, and there is no standard set-up for any of these cars. There I said it... :eek:

uh what? :squint:

the 'Ring has been a means of benchmarking for quite some time now ... long before the R35/GT-R

[Slovette]

So much for all the hype about AWD and Turbos from Japan. I guess in the end real HP and rear drive are still a viable and more than capable supercar platform:D

Stock Drivetrain
Stock Tires
Stock Suspension
Stock Alignment
Pump Gas
Engineer Driver

Nuff said.


Nordschleife excluding GP track, 20.6 kms:
http://www.scuderia-hanseat.de/en/nu...g-roadmap.html (http://www.scuderia-hanseat.de/en/nuerburgring-roadmap.html)

6:55* -- 178.699 km/h -- Radical SR8, 360 PS/650 kg, Michael Vergers (sep,28 05), (*street-legal only in the UK) http://www.radicalextremesportscars....0905/index.php (http://www.radicalextremesportscars.com/news_folder/nord0905/index.php) http://www.radicalextremesportscars....ring/index.php (http://www.radicalextremesportscars.com/media/track_race_ring/index.php)
7:11* -- 172.07 km/h -- McLaren F1 #LMXP1 (Promotional Car), Mika Hakkinen, http://www.sps-automotive.com/en_sps...7Nt_zonda.html (http://www.sps-automotive.com/en_sps/track/07Nt_zonda.html) (* not an official source)
7:12* -- 171.67 km/h -- Radical SR3 Turbo, 320 PS/500 kg (test drive 07/03) (*mfr.)
7:14.89 171.18 km/h – Donkervoort D8 270 RS, , 350 PS/600 kg, Michael Düchting (nov,6 05), http://autoweek.nl/newsdisp.php?cache=no&ID=4199 (http://autoweek.nl/newsdisp.php?cache=no&ID=4199)
7:15.63 169.31 km/h -- Edo Porsche 996 GT2 RS, 542 PS/1284 kg, Patrick Simons (sport auto 09/05), http://www.edo-competition.de/filead...eife_runde.avi (http://www.edo-competition.de/fileadmin/MEDIA/VIDEO/nordschleife_runde.avi) http://www.chpltd.com/911_porsche_wo...ngmeister.html (http://www.chpltd.com/911_porsche_world/ringmeister.html)
7:18.01 170.24 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 RS, 370 PS/670 kg, Michael Duechting, sport auto 12/2004 http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?v...=2&tID=139 57 (http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=13957)
7:19* -- 168.93 km/h -- Radical SR3 1500 Turbo, Phil Bennet (jun,15 03) (*mfr.) http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/new...iefe/index.php (http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/news_folder/nordchliefe/index.php) www.radicalsportscars.com/gallery/ring2b.mpg (http://www.radicalsportscars.com/gallery/ring2b.mpg)
7:22.9 - 169.07 km/h -- Loaded BMW M3 CSL (tuned to GTR specs) ~600 PS, Richard Göransson (nov,5 07) http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=17133 (http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=17133) www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVeZ2F_vlZM#GU5U2spHI_4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVeZ2F_vlZM#GU5U2spHI_4)
7:24* -- 169.65 km/h -- Lexus LF-A, 552 PS/??? kg *unofficial, according to http://motormagazine.co.jp/2007/12/20081_4.html (http://motormagazine.co.jp/2007/12/20081_4.html)
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au...lexus_lfa.html (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/214086/lexus_lfa.html)
TARGET="_new">http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/232532/ (http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/232532/)
7:26.4* 168.07 km/h -- Corvette ZR1, 620 PS/1519 kg *General Motors development engineer Jim Merohttp://blog.gmnext.com/?p=194 (http://blog.gmnext.com/?p=194)
7:27.82 167.20 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F Clubsport, 641 PS/1230 kg, Marc Basseng (EVO #112) http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228650/ (http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/228650/)
http://www.supercarmovies.com/html/c...SODE5movie.php (http://www.supercarmovies.com/html/contentEPISODE5movie.php)
7:28* -- 166.65 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, * company test driver Walther Roehrl (Autobild 07/04)
7:29* -- 164.68 km/h -- 2009 Nissan GT-R, ??? PS/??? kg, *company test driver Tochio Suzuki according to mfr. http://www.nissaneurope-newsbureau.c...0563 84513968 (http://www.nissaneurope-newsbureau.com/nissanmedia/front?controller=SubRubrik&id=nissan_europe_press_room_10772091931250/news_and_events_10772871591872/presse_releases_10781508884370/corporate_10781511772180&pubId=gt_r_achieves_under______at_nurburgring_1209 5056384513968)
7:31 --- 164.38 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl according to www.automotorsport.se/tv/?m=11159 (http://www.automotorsport.se/tv/?m=11159)
7:32* -- 164.07 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/1230 kg (*mfr.) www.autodrome-cannes.com/index-eng.asp (http://www.autodrome-cannes.com/index-eng.asp)
7:32* -- 164.07 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) http://www.caranddriver.com/previews...e-911-gt2.html (http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/14155/first-drive-2008-porsche-911-gt2.html)
7:32.18 164.07 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl http://www.autobild.de/artikel/Theme...ng_422642.html (http://www.autobild.de/artikel/Themen-Testberichte-Duell-am-Ring_422642.html)
7:32.44 163.91 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, definitive time Horst von Saurma (sport auto 01/04)
7:32.52 163.88 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (sport auto 01) www.gemballa.com/news/gtr6002.html (http://www.gemballa.com/news/gtr6002.html)
7:33 --- 163.71 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/ 1371 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto 05/06) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...=2&tID=835 50 (http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=83550)
7:33 --- 163.71 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1497 kg (sport auto 11/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...2&tID=142 508 (http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=142508)
7:34 --- 163.59 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto oct,17-18 05) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...=2&tID=752 19 (http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=75219)
7:35* -- 162.86 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg (*mfr. estimation) http://www.motortrend.com/future/spi...08_nissan_gt_r (http://www.motortrend.com/future/spied_vehicles/112_0712_2008_nissan_gt_r)
7:35 --- 162.86 km/h -- Ruf Rt12, 650 PS/1573 kg (sport auto 01(08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...2&tID=150 345 (http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=150345)
7:36 --- 162.63 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (02)
7:36 --- 162.63 km/h -- Mercedes SL 63 AMG Black Series http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/n...7838_13987.hbs (http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/auto_-_produkte/hxcms_article_507838_13987.hbs)
7:37* -- 162.28 km/h -- Honda NSX test mule, 550 PS * http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/19/n...ially-at-7-37/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/19/nsx-laps-ring-unofficially-at-7-37/)
7:38* -- 161.63 km/h -- Mercedes SLR 722 GT, *company test driver Chris Goodwin http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/n...7671_13987.hbs (http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/auto_-_produkte/hxcms_article_507671_13987.hbs)
7.38* -- 161.63 km/h -- Nissan R35 GT-R, *company test driver Suzuki, slick cut tyres, track partially wet http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...opanel..1.*#40 (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=123066?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1 .*#40)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uGe_fyhQazg http://youtube.com/watch?v=mqjnwbji13k
7.39 --- 161.58 km/h -- Ferrari 430 Scuderia, 510 PS/1402 kg (sport auto 07/08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...2&tID=160 225 (http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=160225)
7.39* -- 161.58 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1395 kg, *mfr. (quote sport auto 05/06)
7:39 --- 161.58 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg, http://www.koenigsegg.com/news/artic...age=&type=news (http://www.koenigsegg.com/news/articles.asp?news=91&page=&type=news)
7.39 --- 161.58 km/h -- TechArt GT street (based on 997 Turbo) 620 PS/1552 kg (sport auto 10/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...1&tID=140 084 (http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=1&fID=1&tID=140084)
http://www.sportauto-online.de/aktue...7063_14469.hbs (http://www.sportauto-online.de/aktuell_U_sport/on-line/hxcms_article_507063_14469.hbs)
7:39.39 161.219 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Röhrl (AutoBild 02/06)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h – Bugatti 16/4 Veyron, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)
7:40* -- 161.22 km/h – Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1655 kg (AutoBild sportscars 01/07) *mfr., company test driver Giorgio Sanna
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h -- Mercedes Benz CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1690 kg, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 03/06)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR, Klaus Ludwig http://www.autobild.de/artikel/Theme...ife_45763.html (http://www.autobild.de/artikel/Themen-Testberichte-Duell-auf-der-Nordschleife_45763.html)
7:40* -- 161.22 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1495 kg, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/03)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h -- Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/ ??? kg, Michelin Cup Sport tyres (Motortrend)
7:41 --- 160.87 km/h -- Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413hp (AutoBild 07/04) http://www.manthey-motors.de/nextsho...pdf.asp?id=217 (http://www.manthey-motors.de/nextshopcms/cmspdf.asp?id=217)
7:42* -- 160.52 km/h – Ford GT, 550 PS/ 1521 kg (*as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h -- Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa (04) (according to dailysportscar.net)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h –- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1420 kg (*mfr.)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h -- Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (02) http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/new...iefe/index.php (http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/news_folder/nordchliefe/index.php)
7:42.9 - 160.21 km/h -- Corvette Z06, 500 PS/1319 kg, Jan Magnusen, (Sporbilen, jun,26 05) http://www.supercars.net/Pics?vpf2=y...=13 84471&l=d (http://www.supercars.net/Pics?vpf2=y&gID=3&fID=0&tID=10073&mID=1384471&l=d)
7:43 --- 160.17 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Roehrl (MOTOR magazine)
7:43 --- 160.17 km/h -- TechArt Porsche GT Street (based on 996 GT2) 620 PS/1453 kg, (sport auto 08/02)
7:43.5 - 160,00 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
7:44* -- 159.83 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg *company chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno, http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../71017001/1065 (http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071017/FREE/71017001/1065)
7:44 --- 159.83 km/h -- Pagani Zonda C12 S, 555 PS/1388 kg (sport auto 07/02)
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage N24, 385 PS/1350 kg (race car, not street-legal, slicks)(*mfr.)
7:45 --- 159.48 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600, 600 PS (00)
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h -- Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series, 507 PS/1760 kg (*mfr.) according to http://www.caranddriver.com/previews...ck-series.html (http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/12956/first-drive-mercedes-clk63-amg-black-series.html)
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h -- McLaren F1, *estimated lap time from a video available at www.pistonheads.tv (http://www.pistonheads.tv/)


Note that Top Gear solicited two professional drivers to test the cars above and each car's best times are shown. This, like all tests, are very driver-dependent. Someone who's not familiar with a particular car, just isn't going to be as fast in it. As an example, the other driver of the NSX recorded a time of 8m 57.13... but this included a full 360 degree spin where the driver was quoted as saying he never had to take it out of second gear!


The ultimate guide how to master the Nordschleife by BMW/sport auto:
>>> http://www.bmw.com/generic/com/en/fa...rdschleife.pdf (http://www.bmw.com/generic/com/en/fascination/bmwm/automobiles/specials/_pdf/bmwm_nordschleife.pdf)

[Slovette]

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[Slovette]

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2009-Corvette-ZR1-LS9_168134.htm

and if you guys cant afford the Zr1 buy this
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/360-Forged-Z06-Movie_168412.htm
and put some bad ass wheels
example

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[JAMESZ]

uh what? :squint:

the 'Ring has been a means of benchmarking for quite some time now ... long before the R35/GT-RIt has been used before, but not like it is now. When the R35 started listing lap times it became a new sensation. Before it was a means of testing the car, but now people look to the Ring as the end all for performance. In 04/05 people just mentioned that the CTS-V was "tested" and "developed" on the Ring, but nobody cared about its times so much. The lap time wars are now alot more intense and the publicity is through the roof. 2 years ago hardly anybody mentioned cars lap times of the ring, yes cars times have been listed for years, and several European car manufacturers used it, but when did CEO's of companies start stating that their car would be faster than so and so's car around the Ring? The Japanese are in this thing head first and GM has followed them right into it with the Z06 and now the ZR1's lap times.

[Bob-E]

yeah the ring is bunk for testing imo. put 'em on tsukuba or laguna seca, something without 10 mile long straights and see where they stack up

[lloyd]

http://home.comcast.net/~augydog2/blackzr1.BMP
OMG. Do want.

[Sean]

How come this thread hasnt grown 5 pages today?

[JohnC]

Pure fricken hotness! :yum: