What are the 2010 Camaro SS Auto cars running?

[tooslow]

I have no doubt John could own a new SS at the track, even though he says he has no plans in doing so. Go to one of the Corvette events in Bowling Green sometime. You'll see several runs of high 13's low 14s by C5 Z06s and other models that should a second or two quicker, but don't. This doesn't include the runs where the driver cuts it off and coasts in. Like Seth said, it's all about the driver.

The car in the video is an SS auto that made 310whp which seems low to me. They also claim it ran a 13.81 in the 1/4 bone stock which seems a bit slow since the stock M6 cars most claim run 13 flat bone stock. I mean, 0.81 slower with an auto?

I don't want to hear about or see vids of modded cars. I just want to know about the bone stock SS auto cars as they come from Chevy; no tune, no gears, no CAI, no slicks or drag radials, etc.At 3:10 is the shop dude stating what the customer ran in the 1/4 and 4:29 is the stock dyno result.

On the other side to this, can anyone say for certain what is stated in the video is accurate? Even if it is true(likely), this would be like someone seeing a bone stock down to the tires SS run a 12.6 and posting how amazing they are. Anomalies are sure to be out there, but they are not the norm.

[JohnC]

I have no doubt John could own a new SS at the track, even though he says he has no plans in doing so. Go to one of the Corvette events in Bowling Green sometime. You'll see several runs of high 13's low 14s by C5 Z06s and other models that should a second or two quicker, but don't. This doesn't include the runs where the driver cuts it off and coasts in. Like Seth said, it's all about the driver.


On the other side to this, can anyone say for certain what is stated in the video is accurate? Even if it is true(likely), this would be like someone seeing a bone stock down to the tires SS run a 12.6 and posting how amazing they are. Anomalies are sure to be out there, but they are not the norm.

In the end it doesn't matter because most of them will run low 13's stock and the rest will be modded cars going 12's or better.

The intention of this thread was never about my car and trying to beat an A6 SS because one car or one bad driver ran slower than the norm.

It was just to try and figure out for myself what the majority of the A6 SS cars were putting down at the tire and clicking off at the track because that one SS in the video just seemed oddly slower and less powerful than I expected an A6 SS to be.

[Seth]

MPH doesn't matter if I get there first.

What is not to understand here?

A stock A6 SS with TQ management from hell gets there in 13.81 @ whatever mph. I get there in my lowly bolt-on (est.) 230whp 4.6L n'a Mustang in 13.56 @ 103.

Tell me again, who got there first?

Because they are not 13.8 second cars when driven right. And because you are using the worst and slowest possible scenario of automatic SS I have ever heard of, which is just wrong IMO. Let's see at a forum list of people who submitted a time for the fastest completely stock automatic 2010 SS:

Camaro Forum - 2010 Camaro 2011 Camaro / Camaro Z28 SS Forums - Camaro5.com - View Single Post - Official 1/4 Mile 2010 Camaro Fast List

Completely stock automatics, manuals removed from list
5. 8ty8ls1 - 12.97 @ 107.61 mph, (L99, A6)
6. 1stGM - 12.98 @ 107.34 mph, (L99, A6)
13. 8secpumpgas - 13.11 @ 106.38 mph, (L99, A6)
15. acatlover13 - 13.20 @ 105.99 mph, (L99, A6)
17. Matt (tunetime) - 13.25 @ 106.42 mph, (L99, A6)
19. Scottywheels - 13.28 @ 106.43 mph, (L99, A6)
22. Midnight Maro - 13.33 @ 105.52 mph, (L99, A6)
24. HDDAN - 13.38 @ 105.65 mph, (L99, A6)
25. PwrTrip - 13.41 @ 105.01 mph, (L99, A6)
26. Kaler - 13.44 @ 108.64 mph, (L99, A6)


The same thing about you and these guys is all of you know how to drag race decently. The first couple are probably in cold conditions, but the middle of the pack is a good comparison. Some guy running a 13.80 is a bad comparison, and sucks at launching. Understand what I am saying?

These are ten examples that are all faster, and look to be driven correctly, except that last guy who needs to learn to get out of the hole better. Average trap speed was 106.5, which is slightly slower than what the magazines say. Average ET is 13.2, about exactly what the magazines say.

But like mentioned above, I never said I was going to the track and try to own a new A6 SS.

But you did say this:

Anyone got an idea how quick the 2010 auto SS Camaro's are running? I'm just wanting to know for comparison sake to the car below.

"For comparison's sake"- Here is your comparison. Put an equal driver in a stock SS automatic, and you'll lose.

If I run a 12.5@110 and beat a stock 2010 GT500 that goofs his launch and runs a 13.1@115, I don't have the faster car, I just outdrove him. Because in talented hands, that GT500 could run low 12s.



I am not trying to give you a hard time. I am showing that since you are at least somewhat experienced at drag racing, its not fair for you to compare your car to a newbie in a faster car who doesn't really know how to sixty foot it.

[JohnC]

Because they are not 13.8 second cars when driven right. And because you are using the worst and slowest possible scenario of automatic SS I have ever heard of, which is just wrong IMO. Let's see at a forum list of people who submitted a time for the fastest completely stock automatic 2010 SS:

Camaro Forum - 2010 Camaro 2011 Camaro / Camaro Z28 SS Forums - Camaro5.com - View Single Post - Official 1/4 Mile 2010 Camaro Fast List

Completely stock automatics, manuals removed from list
5. 8ty8ls1 - 12.97 @ 107.61 mph, (L99, A6)
6. 1stGM - 12.98 @ 107.34 mph, (L99, A6)
13. 8secpumpgas - 13.11 @ 106.38 mph, (L99, A6)
15. acatlover13 - 13.20 @ 105.99 mph, (L99, A6)
17. Matt (tunetime) - 13.25 @ 106.42 mph, (L99, A6)
19. Scottywheels - 13.28 @ 106.43 mph, (L99, A6)
22. Midnight Maro - 13.33 @ 105.52 mph, (L99, A6)
24. HDDAN - 13.38 @ 105.65 mph, (L99, A6)
25. PwrTrip - 13.41 @ 105.01 mph, (L99, A6)
26. Kaler - 13.44 @ 108.64 mph, (L99, A6)


The same thing about you and these guys is all of you know how to drag race decently. The first couple are probably in cold conditions, but the middle of the pack is a good comparison. Some guy running a 13.80 is a bad comparison, and sucks at launching. Understand what I am saying?

These are ten examples that are all faster, and look to be driven correctly, except that last guy who needs to learn to get out of the hole better. Average trap speed was 106.5, which is slightly slower than what the magazines say. Average ET is 13.2, about exactly what the magazines say.




But you did say this:


"For comparison's sake"- Here is your comparison. Put an equal driver in a stock SS automatic, and you'll lose.

If I run a 12.5@110 and beat a stock 2010 GT500 that goofs his launch and runs a 13.1@115, I don't have the faster car, I just outdrove him. Because in talented hands, that GT500 could run low 12s.



I am not trying to give you a hard time. I am showing that since you are at least somewhat experienced at drag racing, its not fair for you to compare your car to a newbie in a faster car who doesn't really know how to sixty foot it.

Wheeew! Yeah. Brodies reply answered my question already. I guess you still have it in your head that I posted this because I thought I was faster than all A6 SS cars?

Let me repeat it again for you. No. I just wanted to know what other A6 SS cars were dynoing and running at the track since I thought the #'s that SS in the video seemed super low and slow to me, and out of the norm I suspected. I had only heard about and seen the M6 cars #'s and that's all I had to gauge the A6 cars by, you understand now?

I'm not trying to be an ass, but I really feel it's a waste of time to go off topic and argue the obvious, that these cars are faster and should be able to beat my old slow pos Mustang.

[Tim99ws6]

Any chance you know where that SS is located? The answer may be a simple problem with our global environment (DA)

[jesse92]

All this one had was a K&N drop in filter not an CAI. Plus he put in synthetic fluids but that was it still stock but with a good driver mod though.

1/4 mile Bowling Green Beech Bend - Car Videos on StreetFire

Plus his time sheet in this thread where he raced me at BB in vid link above.

NEW BONE STOCK RECORD - Camaro Forum - 2010 Camaro 2011 Camaro / Camaro Z28 SS Forums - Camaro5.com

Sorry just now realized title said Auto cars. Reading beats me once again.

[tooslow]

NEW BONE STOCK RECORD - Camaro Forum - 2010 Camaro 2011 Camaro / Camaro Z28 SS Forums - Camaro5.com

I'm showing my age when I can say my definition of bone stock differs from his.

[jesse92]

I'm showing my age when I can say my definition of bone stock differs from his.

Which one makes it not stock in your eyes. Drop in filter or fluid change?

[tooslow]

Which one makes it not stock in your eyes. Drop in filter or fluid change?

In my eyes, I don't consider a car bone stock when the word "except" can be used after describing a car as bone stock. For example, "Brodie's car is bone stock, except ......."

That's just me. I have no doubt countless other people will have countless other definitions.

[DAVID@DBR]

In my eyes, I don't consider a car bone stock when the word "except" can be used after describing a car as bone stock. For example, "Brodie's car is stock, except ......."

That's just me. I have no doubt countless other people will have countless other definitions.

I agree with you, bone stock means straight like it came off the line...

[1fastfamilyman]

Bone stock was my 00' SS M6 WITH the paper filter AND stock fluids going 12.94 @110 on a 2.07 60'!

[LINELOCKSRUS]

I agree with you, bone stock means straight like it came off the line...

mine is bone stock "with a ported blower "

[ZTwentyAteU]

oh god bone stock arguements.

I don't consider a oil change a modification.

[JohnC]

oh god bone stock arguements.

I don't consider an oil change a modification.

But HP adding after-market products are not bone stock OEM items. A K&N filter is not a stock filter, it is a high flow after-market filter designed to add HP/TQ through more airflow than OEM.

When we say bone stock, we expect the vehicle to be as it came from the factory with all OEM parts intact and not modified in any way, minus oil changes and gas.

[jdsgallops]

I have no clue anymore. Purity semi truck truck scale a long time ago showed 3650lbs stock after 5speed swap, but I can't recall if I was in or out of the car.

It should be less (-90lbs) since the aluminum block pi swap and got rid of the lakewood blowproof bell that was like 45lbs (think the tremec bell was 11lbs, so -34lbs there).

Est maybe 3,526lbs?

My aluminum headed 95 cobra went 3575 with me in it.